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#1 Aniya_san

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Posté 24 September 2013 - 19:29 PM

Saison 1

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La série suit le détective James Gordon, fraichement débarqué à Gotham (ville corrompu jusqu’à la moelle), pendant le meurtre des Wayne, sous les yeux du jeune Bruce...bien avant qu'il ne devienne Batman.
 
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Posté 25 September 2013 - 02:52 AM

Histoire d'éclipser un peu le début de Agents of SHIELD, Fox vient de commander, sans passer pas la case pilote, une série intitulée Gotham, sur la vie et la carrière du Commissaire Gordon. Le tout supervisé par le showrunner de Rome/The Mentalist.

1) ça a énormément de potentiel, et c'est en gros le projet de Gotham Central que de nombreux fans de Batman attendaient depuis longtemps (Montoya ! Barbara Gordon ! Bullock !).
2) je m'attends donc à ce qu'ils plantent totalement la série en collant à l'esthétique et au rayalisme golanien, ou en en faisant un procedural quelconque au budget limité (alors que paradoxalement, une approche réaliste bordée d'éléments "fantastiques" par le biais de la Rogue's Gallery, et de la présence en filigrane de Batman, ça pourrait être la voie à suivre... mais pas à la sauce Golan).

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Posté 25 September 2013 - 15:15 PM

Si c'est du niveau d'Arrow, je préfère même pas voir ça ...

(et j'ai peur que ce soit le cas ...)

#4 Captain Cavern

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Posté 25 September 2013 - 18:23 PM

Si on retrouve le Bruno Heller de Rome, ça peut être très intéressant. Si c'est celui paresseux de Mentalist, non merci.
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Posté 25 September 2013 - 19:14 PM

Curieux de savoir qui va jouer Gordon?
Vous auriez vu qui vous ?



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Posté 27 September 2013 - 10:44 AM

John Goodman.......

Hélas ils choisiront surement un mec pas trop vieux au physique pas trop dérangeant.....la belle gueule allant avec............


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Posté 13 January 2014 - 21:55 PM

Fox president Kevin Reilly threw comic book fans a super bone on Monday at the Television Critics Association winter press tour by affirming that Gotham, its recently ordered series about the origins of oneday police commish James Gordon, will not only also follow a young Bruce Wayne’s journey to becoming Batman but feature iconic villains, as well.

Unlike other superhero shows, Reilly cryptically and gently snarked, that dance around the incorporation of popular names, “This is all of the classic Batman characters, with a young Bruce Wayne, the Penguin, the Riddler [and] how they came to be…. What events led up to [someone] becoming Catwoman…. all with Gotham teetering on the edge.”

Asked to expound on the presence of Bruce Wayne — a character heretofore declared basically untouchable by shows such as Smallville and Arrow — Reilly made clear: “We will arc a young Bruce Wayne from a child” of about 12 until whenever the series finale might be, at which point he “puts on the cape.”

Reilly explained to a small group of reporters after his executive presentation that Fox ponied up a “very healthy licensing fee” to secure “all of the underlying Batman rights for the entire franchise.” He added: “This is not some adjunct companion series. This is the Batman franchise, just backing it up [in chronology].”

Previously, it was only confirmed that Gotham, executive-produced and penned by The Mentalist‘s Bruno Heller and produced by Warner Bros. Television, would explore “the origin stories of Commissioner James Gordon and the villains that made Gotham famous.”

“I’ve read the script,” Reilly added, “and it’s really good. It’s going to be this operatic soap that has a slightly larger-than-life quality.”

Writers room staffing on Gotham is set to begin sometime in February.


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Posté 13 January 2014 - 22:11 PM

Je râle un peu là.

J'était chaud devant une série télé GOTHAM CENTRAL, mais entre SMALLVILLE, et AGENTS OF SHIELD et co, je commence a en avoir un peu marre du concept "les personnages AVANT qu'ils ne soient des super héros ou des super méchants".
Je veux les voir en tant que vrais super héros et super méchants moi. Pas que ça coupe juste avant que ça commence vraiment.

 

 

C'est Ben McKenzie, vu entre autre dans NEWPORT BEACH, qui va incarner Jim Gordon dans la série GOTHAM.

Désolé de comprendre que ce qui est raconté par Darkcowboy c'est encore une fois du caca.


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Posté 09 February 2014 - 06:25 AM

Ce qui fera de SOUTHLAND , la prequelle de cette serie ! Cela dit c' est un bon choix , il choisit bien ses series.

D’ailleurs son partenaire Michael Cudlitz ferait un bon Gordon pour MAN OF STEEL 2 !


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Posté 26 February 2014 - 01:11 AM

Review d'un early script (apparemment réel) du pilote de Gotham :

Gotham is one of this fall's most anticipated new TV shows: the story of Jim Gordon and Gotham City, years before Batman. We obtained what appears to be a draft of the first episode, although it could be fake or draft that will change a lot before filming. If the script is for real, then Gotham has some terrific potential — but it also may have much bigger issues than Batman being 12 years old.

Update: The script draft is dated Jan. 31, 2014 and labeled "Second Network Draft," so if it's real, it's not a particularly early draft. But that said, it's hard to judge a work in progress, and a lot can change before and during filming. With that out of the way, some spoilers ahead...

The pilot of Gotham is primarily about new detective James Gordon getting the tour of Gotham City from his new, morals-challenged partner Harvey Bullock, while they try to solve the murder of Bruce Wayne's parents (who is by all accounts is a 10 or 12 year old in the show). What at first appears to be a simple mugging turns into something much more, and you'd have to have never read a Batman comic or watched a crime procedural to not realize that corruption infests Gotham at all levels, not just on the streets.

The main problem with Gotham is that it's the most exposition-filled, perfunctory TV episode I've ever seen. Not only does Gotham want to introduce its entire cast, which it does without subtlety or any attempt at characterization, but it derails the entirety of the show, because Gordon and Bullock have to stop everywhere and introduce everybody while ostensibly trying to solve the crime. It's not the least common problem for a pilot to have, but Gotham is over-stuffed even before the script has to spend 20 minutes just spelling out the Batman-ness of it all.

And boy, does Gotham want you to know it's a Batman show, despite its lack of Batman. The show clearly has no faith in its premise, because it simply screams everything that eventually becomes a part of the Batman mythos, as if it knows people would rather be watching a show about regular Batman and his villains. It's like it's concerned that it will only be seen by people who have never seen a Batman movie or read a Batman comic before. Those people might appreciate the fact that whenever young henchman Oswald Cobblepot shows up, someone mentions "He looks like a penguin" every single time, but for everyone who even has a passing knowledge of Bat-lore, it's like being bludgeoned to death with the Bat-signal.

That's the sort of thing that can be overcome in later episodes. Gotham's second problem is Gordon and Bullock, who somehow manage to twist the rich comics characters into a standard "naïve young rookie cop partnered with jaded, disillusioned older cop who cut corners." Bullock, played by the excellent Donal Logue, reads pretty much like every cop character Logue has ever played, which means he's a bit more of a charming slacker than the gruff, bitter Bullock we know from the comics and cartoons, which is fine.

But young Jim Gordon is painfully naïve. I understand Gotham wants to contrast Gordon's idealism with the grim realities of Gotham City, but it does so at the cost of making its lead character often look like a moron. Gordon is supposed to have grown up in Gotham, and yet he's constantly boggled at every single crime that happens. Gordon does awaken somewhat to Gotham's grim realities by the end of the pilot, so hopefully later episodes will feature a more savvy Gordon, one who can navigate the treachery of Gotham's underworld and politics.

My biggest worry, though, is the dialogue. The script was written by Bruno Heller, co-creator of The Mentalist and writer of many episodes of HBO's Rome series, so he has some chops. But Heller seems to want to include a touch of '30s gangster-speak in Gotham, and it stretches the show's already thin suspension-of-disbelief way past the breaking point — unless you regularly call people "mopes," "loonybirds," "skell huggers, "sugar bunnies," or "a cool glass of milk."

Honestly, I'm still not sold on a Batman show where Batman is 12, because even if the show gets to the point where Bruce Wayne does become Batman, most of his enemies will be pushing 40. But I don't have a problem with any of Gotham's Batman-ness (other than how they shoehorn in and awkwardly introduce 'em all). Gotham's real problems are its uninspired writing, stereotypical characters, and most egregiously, its dialogue. I hate to say it, but this might be a job for 12-year-old Superman.

Want more plots details and specifics? Here's the SPOILERS section:

• Here's the proto-villains introduced in the pilot: A 14-year-old Catwoman, already cat-burglering and associating with cats; the Riddler, who is working for the GCPD as a coroner and who tries to present all pertinent case information as riddles; the Penguin, a mid-level thug, who as mentioned earlier is repeatedly referred to as looking like a penguin.

• Additionally, Gordon and Bullock enter a run-down apartment where a little girl named Ivy lives with her shitty parents and, according to the script, a lot of houseplants. Could this perhaps be Poison Ivy? Well, in the comics, Poison Ivy's real name is Pamela Isley. Is Gotham giving us a clever feint here? Probably not.

• There's also a comedian telling jokes in gangster Fish Mooney's club, jokes straight out of Reader's Digest circa 1942. Mooney laughs hysterically, and, just in case those feelings were somehow opaque to the audiences, she tells the comedian she likes him. A lot. Repeatedly.

• Major Crimes detective Renee Montoya used to date Gordon's fiancée, because LESBIANS. And for bonus points, Bullock even calls her a dyke. Fun!

• Alfred appears to have a crazy cockney accent, and I swear to god this is real dialogue from the script:

ALFRED: Oi! Master Bruce! Stop playing silly buggers! Get your bloody arse down off there!

• One more line for the road from Gordon's fiancée:

BARBARA (blithely): Jim, you are the cleverest, bravest, goodest man in Gotham.


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Posté 26 February 2014 - 01:20 AM

Ca fait tres peur :closedeyes:

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Posté 26 February 2014 - 21:48 PM

Ça a l'air terrassant de subtilité :sweat:/

Cela dit l'extrait de dialogue d'Alfred m'a fait rire :mrgreen:

Entre ça et son boulot sur Mentalist, Bruno Heller semble clairement avoir oublier son talent chez HBO (bordel, qu'est-ce que c'était bien Rome...)


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Posté 04 March 2014 - 19:18 PM

Gotham has found its preteen Batman Bruce Wayne.

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Touch‘s David Mazouz will play the someday philanthropist/costumed crimefighter in Fox’s upcoming Commissioner Gordon origin series, TVLine has learned.

As those familiar with Batman’s tragic beginnings know, young Master Wayne is an orphan following the murder of his wealthy parents. The serious, soulful kiddo grows up protected and guided by Alfred Pennyworth (to be played by Sean Pertwee) and Gotham PD detective/future commissioner James Gordon (played by Southland‘s Ben McKenzie).

Mazouz is best known as Jake, the mysterious autistic boy at the center of Fox’s Touch. His other TV credits include The Office, Criminal Minds and Private Practice.

Also moving into Gotham: Newcomer (and Michelle Pfeiffer lookalike) Camren Bicondova as the teenage Selina Kyle (aka the future Catwoman). Another orphan (and a pickpocket), Selina is described as “wholly unpredictable” and “dangerous when cornered.” Kitten’s got claws, eh?


Pas particulièrement convaincu par le choix de Bruce ; par contre, la petite Camren - qui est une danseuse/acrobate/gymnaste de formation - est sympathique, de ce que j'ai vu d'elle quand elle participait à America's Best Dance Crew, en plus d'avoir un physique très particulier. Reste à voir si elle sait jouer la comédie.

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Posté 20 March 2014 - 19:25 PM

Premier aperçu de Donal Logue dans le rôle du Detective Bullock pour la série Gotham

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Posté 21 March 2014 - 19:43 PM

Et la Catwoman de cette même série:

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Posté 21 March 2014 - 19:48 PM

La future Catwoman plutôt, Selina Kyle est sensée avoir à peu près 12 ans dans la série.

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Posté 21 March 2014 - 20:01 PM

Moi ce qui m'amuse profondément, avec ce projet Gotham, c'est :

# Pendant six mois : "Non, non, on vous assure, on ne verra pas Batman, ce n'est pas Batman - La Préquelle, ce sont les aventures de Gordon, Bruce Wayne n'aura qu'un rôle très très secondaire, ce n'est qu'un enfant".
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Posté 21 March 2014 - 20:07 PM

Donc le Batman avant Bruce Wayne, ils vont l'appeler "le vigilante" ? -_-/>

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Posté 21 March 2014 - 20:12 PM

@Sandalfon: "Futur" oui! Elle a déjà les bases niveau look.

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Posté 21 March 2014 - 20:13 PM

Nan, pour coller avec le "Red-Blue Blur" de Smallville, il vont l'appeller "The Back & Grey Smudge".

Ou alors Batboy.

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